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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:43:00 -
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Is this possible, if so, how?
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2280
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:50:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means?
Why yes, yes I do.
@Arkena
Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2280
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Posted - 2014.12.01 21:55:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Oh ok, so what law did a CPM break that merits impeachment? Hell I didn't even know we had laws in Dust, but **** I'll roll with it. Do we even have trials in a gaming community?
I've witnessed (on several occasions no less) at least one CPM member flagrantly disregard at least one of the Forum Rules (sometimes multiple infractions within the same post).
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2280
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:08:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Open a ticket.
Thanks for an actual answer.
@Patrick57
I have personally been smacked for disregarding the Forum Rules and I know of several others who have been as well.
They are enforced, though nowhere near uniformly.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2281
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Posted - 2014.12.02 13:33:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:The CPM is incredibly active, hard working and for the lack of a better word, useful for DUST 514 development. I speak with them literally every day, meet with them on video at least twice a month, and we trade emails about specific topics daily, many of which are collections of feedback from forum threads, CPM threads, direct corporation feedback and experience.
Wow, so I start a topic that garners widespread support throughout the community (though is obsolesced by at that time NDA breaching info) and I get no blue tag......
Bring up impeaching a CPM and I get a blue tag?
I should bring up impeaching CPMs more often. 
In actual response, I am not denying the "usefulness" of having them as information gatherers (seven people actively gathering info > one person actively gathering info or even just passively listening to the throng for that matter).
However, I wonder if allowing them to behave against the forum rules benefits CCP in the eyes of the community at large (rather than the eyes of those who'd like what their CPM says no matter what because ::party line::).
Beyond that, I am curious why it is allowed to occur with regularity where if a non-CPM member did the same things, they'd receive forum bans of increasing severity (which would serve to drag out the infractions due to the gag of forum ban instead of allowing them to go on unchecked for pages at a time in threads). I would imagine that the CPM would be held to the same standards as any other member of the community (if not stricter standards) since they are still members of the community they were selected by. IMHO, they'd serve as a better (and more public) example of "break the rules and this is what happens" since they are more widely known than the rest of us lowly plebeians.
In closing, being a CPM shouldn't be seen as carte blanche for bad behavior, in fact, they should be even more heavily scrutinized than your average forumites.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2281
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Posted - 2014.12.02 13:36:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:
as a cpm you shouldnt be useing alts to **** post or hide.
On the contrary, if CPM members are going to be shitposting, I'd hope they'd be doing it on alts rather than with the endorsement of a white tag next to it....
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2282
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Posted - 2014.12.02 16:08:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Do you even know what the word "Impeach" means? Why yes, yes I do. @Arkena Agree, disagree, this has nothing to do with my question. I simply want to know if there is a defined protocol for accusing a CPM of gross misconduct and taking action against them. Being impeached does not equal removing from office. Being impeached is essentially an official indictment. Basically, it's a not a punishment. You still have to be convicted to be removed from office. The conviction, not the impeachment, is the punishment. So no, I also don't think you know what this word means.
Regardless of previous misconceptions (which seems to be more widespread than you'd first realize), I do now and did at the time of my quoted post know what the word impeach means.
Since we have no forum trial system available to us (at least that I am aware of), should I assume that self-evident behavior proves enough for a conviction on its own? Will CCP be enforcing a removal from office or will the offending CPM member(s) simply step down of their own accord?
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
2282
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Posted - 2014.12.03 05:45:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Moorian Flav wrote:Quote:Since we have no forum trial system available to us (at least that I am aware of), should I assume that self-evident behavior proves enough for a conviction on its own? We've had CPM forum trolls in the past but that never prompted a removal that I know of. If you do not like how a CPM is behaving on the forums, report them or send in a ticket referencing their trolling posts. If CCP gets enough reports/complaints, they'll likely will do something about it. If your feelings alone are hurt though (where likely no one else cares), you're pretty much SOL. Or you know...you could contact them and let them know you don't appreciate it without dev intervention. You can constructively criticize my posting as often as you please, I pay attention when it follows the rules of CPR Constructively Privately Respectfully People make mistakes and get frustrated and you might be on the receiving end unfavorably. A nudge to be better is often all that's needed. 
While this may be true, I still am of the opinion that some form of community initiated removal process should be in place. If not for the current CPM, what if CPM9 does something truly egregious in the eyes of the community at large?
There should be a formal way of voting "No Confidence" just as there is a formal process for voting in the first place.
Dust514/Legion should be a(n):
[_] Arcade Lobby Shooter
[X] Sci-fi Military Sim
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